Parking lots, yards, wall packs and poles
I will publish what your lot costs to run. I will not publish what it costs to fix, and here is why.
Anybody quoting your lot off a web form is guessing. Here is what each thing can honestly answer.
Yards, lots and exterior work, shot on the day







Swipe. Exterior and area lighting first, then the interior work.
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Where the watts actually go, a lot
400 W pulse start metal halide
455 W a pole head
And it holds only about 77 percent of its rated lumens in service.
Matched LED area light, large
234 to 400 W
Sized on mean lumens, not the initial rating on the box.
Lamp changes, and the lift
27.7 a year down to 8.32
At 4,000 hours. Every one of those is a boom lift in your lot.
No install price on this page, on purpose. The pole bases decide it.
What a matched LED pole head saves
12 to 49%
less power at the pole
Wide on purpose. The low end is honest: matched on MEAN lumens against a 400 W pulse start, the LED can land near 400 W. Anyone quoting you 70 percent outdoors is sizing against the number on the box.
Pole work is bonding work
The safety argument, written plainly, because cheap crews skip it
Rule 30-1024(1), bonding within 2.5 m of grade
Metal within 2.5 m of grade gets bonded by a separate bonding conductor sized per Table 16. The code wording moved from grounded to bonded for a reason.
Ground it to an electrode instead of bonding it and a fault at the top energizes the conductor running the whole way down. That is somebody getting hurt while leaning on it.
Disconnecting means on the pole, and the climbing warning sign
Rule 30-1006. There is a reason the sign exists and it is not decoration.
Guide to the CE Code Section 30The rest of the section, cited because citing it is proof of care
Branch circuit voltage limit on 600Y/347 V is Rule 30-102. Damp and wet location luminaires are 30-316 to 30-322. Scope of permanent outdoor floodlighting on poles is 30-1000. Switching is 30-1020. Grounding and bonding is 30-1022 to 30-1028.
Climbing steps are 30-1030. Enclosed or fenced outdoor installations are 26-008 and GFCI on outdoor receptacles within 2.5 m of grade is 26-704. Verify against the edition in force, which I do before it goes in a proposal.
Guide to the CE Code Section 30Guide to the CE Code Section 26347 V outdoor, and the STANDATA that reaches it
Most Alberta commercial lot lighting is 347 V, so the indoor bulletin reaches your lot too.
347 V is over 150 V to ground
So STANDATA 24-ECB-030 applies outdoors
347 V capable product runs about 22 percent more
There is no STANDATA specifically about 347 V outdoor lighting, so the general bulletin governs.
The bylaw trap
The same fixture package passes in Edmonton and fails three towns over
| Where you are | The rule | What it costs you |
|---|---|---|
| Edmonton | Zoning Bylaw 20001 s.5.120(3.1) is qualitative only. Minimize glare, direct light downward, do not interfere with traffic controls. No lux limit, no BUG requirement, no mandatory full cutoff. Full cutoff is only a discretionary condition a planner may impose. | Nothing mandatory.Edmonton Zoning Bylaw 20001 s.5.120 |
| Strathcona County and Sherwood Park | s.3.10(1) explicitly captures fixtures that are relocated, replaced or retrofitted. s.3.10(2) says the development officer shall require any fixture rated 2,000 lumens or more to be full cutoff. Every commercial wall pack, area light, flood and canopy exceeds 2,000 lumens. | Full cutoff on effectively every fixture.Strathcona County Land Use Bylaw s.3.10 |
| St. Albert | Land Use Bylaw 18/2024 s.3.24: full cut off fixtures shall be installed for all exterior lighting. Plus non residential parking lots, walkways and all yards must be illuminated. | Full cutoff on everything, plus possibly more fixtures than you have today.St. Albert Land Use Bylaw 18/2024 s.3.24 |
| Parkland County, including Acheson | s.13.1.3: all commercial and industrial outdoor luminaire replacements requiring an electrical permit shall be Dark Sky compliant, and the bylaw defines luminaire replacement so the rule bites. | Dark Sky compliant product only. A new Land Use Bylaw 2025-12 is in effect and council policy C-ES06 holds the technical definition, which I could not retrieve. I verify with the County before quoting Acheson.Parkland County Land Use Bylaw, consolidated |
| Spruce Grove | Land Use Bylaw C-824-12 Part 6 s.37: a development permit may require a lighting plan showing the 2 lux contour. | A photometric plan, which is engineering time.Spruce Grove Land Use Bylaw C-824-12 Part 6 s.37 |
| Leduc | Land Use Bylaw 809-2013 s.20.13 is qualitative, plus a downcast only rule in the 50 Ave and 50 St Gateway Overlay and shielding in the Telford Industrial Overlay. | Depends which overlay you are in.Leduc Land Use Bylaw 809-2013 |
The premium, and the voluntary standard
What full cutoff actually costs, from a real price list
Why no install price on this page
Four variables that move an outdoor number more than the fixture
Pole and base condition
A pole with a rusted base or a cracked handhole is not a lighting job any more. I would rather find that on a walkdown than in a change order.
The buried feeder you cannot see
Direct buried conductors of unknown age and unknown depth feeding the lot. Sometimes fine, sometimes the actual project.
Lift access
What can reach the pole, over what surface, and whether it can be there during business hours. This moves the labour number substantially and it is site specific.
City of Edmonton OSCAM permitThe photometric layout
How many fixtures your lot needs is a calculation, not a count of what is on the poles now.
The calculator sizes against mean lumens, not the initial rating, so it tends to under promise the saving. The layout settles it properly.
Proof, exterior and area lighting
Example buildings, real fixture counts, real prices
Two example buildings, drawn at the fixture count I quote
104 fixtures, an example Edmonton shop
94 fixtures, an example dealership showroom
Every square is one fixture. Example buildings at the counts and prices I actually quote, not round numbers.
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Who is actually on your roof and in your ceilingWhat the low bid leaves out on a lot
Five things that are true, cost you money, and are missing from almost every lot lighting quote
There is no LED rebate in Alberta right now
Energy Efficiency Alberta was wound up in 2020. The Emissions Reduction Alberta Energy Savings for Business program is closed and fully allocated. SEMI is industrial only. If a competitor payback calculation has a rebate line in it, that payback is made up. My calculator has no rebate field, and that is deliberate.
ERA Energy Savings for Business program overviewERA Energy Savings for Business FAQEnergyRates.ca on the wound up Alberta business programThe write off is real, though
Commercial lighting normally lands in capital cost allowance Class 8 at 20 percent declining balance, and Class 8 qualifies for the accelerated first year allowance through 2027. Talk to your accountant about that, not to me. I am an electrician.
CRA capital cost allowance classesThe 347 volt trap, and why the cheap swap stops being cheap
Alberta STANDATA 24-ECB-030 says a luminaire with double ended lamps on a ballast rated over 150 volts to ground, disconnected and reconnected, counts as a new luminaire and needs disconnecting means. It extends that to energy conservation retrofits. Most Alberta warehouses and commercial buildings are 347 volt. So the cheap ballast bypass lands inside that sentence. A new fixture with no double ended lamps does not.
Alberta STANDATA 24-ECB-030Field modifying a certified fixture voids its certification
A proper retrofit uses a certified retrofit product and a new label on every single fixture, per CSA C22.2 No. 250.1, and the retrofit kit has to be certified for the fixture it goes into per STANDATA 24-ECB-002. I price the label. Most low bids do not, and the building owner inherits that at insurance or resale time.
CSA C22.2 No. 250.1Alberta STANDATA 24-ECB-002There is no install price on this page, and that is deliberate
Pole and base condition, the buried feeder of unknown age, lift access, and the photometric layout move an outdoor number more than the fixture does. Anybody quoting your lot off a web form is guessing. You get the energy and maintenance figures here, and the install number off a site visit.
Straight answers
What I get asked on lots, yards and poles
Why will you not give me a price for my parking lot online?
Because the pole condition, the buried feeder, the lift access and the photometric layout move the number more than the fixture does. Anybody quoting your lot off a web form is guessing and will make it up in change orders. What I will publish is the energy and the maintenance you stop paying. The install number comes off a site visit.
Do I need full cutoff fixtures on my lot?
It depends which municipality you are in, and they genuinely disagree. Strathcona County and Sherwood Park require full cutoff on any fixture over 2,000 lumens, which is every commercial fixture. St. Albert requires it on all exterior lighting. Parkland County requires Dark Sky compliant product on anything needing a permit. Edmonton requires none of it. Full cutoff optics run about 19 percent more, so it is a real cost.
What does a 400 W metal halide pole light actually use?
About 458 to 465 W at the panel once the ballast is counted, not 400 W. It also holds only about 64 to 77 percent of its rated lumens in service depending on whether it is probe start or pulse start, so your lot is dimmer than it was designed to be.
Is a pole light retrofit really a permit job?
Yes. Edmonton's own commercial electrical permit page names lighting retrofits as permit triggering work, and defines maintenance as like for like replacement for preservation or upkeep, not improvement. Swapping a dead HID wall pack for an identical HID wall pack is maintenance. Converting HID to LED is an improvement. Half this market does these jobs with no permit and the building owner carries that.
What is CEC Rule 30-1024(1) and why do you keep mentioning it?
It requires metal within 2.5 m of grade to be bonded by a separate bonding conductor sized per Table 16. The wording moved from grounded to bonded because if pole equipment is grounded to an electrode and not bonded to the system neutral, a fault to the enclosure at the top of the pole energizes the conductor running down it. That is somebody getting hurt leaning on your light pole, and it is exactly what a cheap crew leaves behind.
Next step
Book the walkdown
Free. About an hour.You get a written scope with the option prices side by side.
What I measure while I am there
- 1
I walk the lot in the dark
- 2
I count the poles and heads
- 3
I check every base and handhole for rust and cracks
- 4
I confirm your supply voltage
- 5
I read your municipal lighting bylaw before I quote
The bylaw is the part that changes the fixture, so I read it first.
Booked. I have your number.
I will call you within 24 hours to set the time. If you want it sooner, call or text me at (780) 904-3462.
I do the walkdown myself. I meter a fixture, count what is actually up there, read your municipal lighting bylaw before I show up, and hand you a written scope with the option prices side by side. No pressure, and no rebate that does not exist.
Dmitry Naboka, Master Electrician #13824, 14 years in the trade